This post should be filed under the “I’m not creative enough to make these stories up. ” A close friend is VP of Procurement for a very large multinational. This morning we were catching up on a number of things and he mentioned 3 very large vendor negotiations he had just completed.
I should have guessed what he was going to say when he said, “Dave, when are sales people going to understand price is important, but that’s not the only thing people like me care about?”
He went on to describe the situations.
“Dave, these vendors have been incumbents for years. They are important to our business (one was a very large software company, the other was a large systems company, the third was a large telecom company). We’ve made huge investments in each, spending millions on each, every year. I know we aren’t their largest customers, but we are large customers for each of them. As we looked at the negotiations–they were non competitive, we were looking at major contract renewals and enhancements.”
He went on, “As I entered the negotiation, there were some things we wanted to change about the relationships–there were some opportunities from a service point of view, there were some things we thought they could do that would improve our operations and effectiveness……”
I interrupted him, “Well I know pricing is important to you, how much of your strategy was just to beat them down on price?”
He laughed, “Well pricing is always important and we will get the best deal we can, but pricing wasn’t the core issue, and some of the things we were looking for may have required some price increases—we expected that, but the other issues really were important to our operations.”
I sensed a “but” coming up. I asked, “What happened?
He sighed saying, “Well you know how this always happens. Because I was getting engaged in these negotiations the sales teams brought their regional vice presidents. I didn’t mind that, I thought we could reach agreement really quickly.”
I said, “You have me at the edge of my seat, what happened?”
He laughed, “They made my job really easy for me–but made me really wonder. Before we even started discussing changes in service levels, things they could do to help improve our operations, the regional managers opened the discussion with the discounts they would offer on our current contracts. They made the discussion about price–price was important to us, but it wasn’t what was driving our issues.”
I groaned, thinking. “This wasn’t just a problem with sales people–here are senior managers who only sell on price. What kind of example does that set for sales people?”
I asked, “I know there’s more, what happened next?”
He responded, “I really don’t understand it, I don’t know why they made it all about price, but that’s what they wanted the discussion to be focused on, so I went with it. I knew the discounted price was their starting point, so we would close the deal at a price much lower than that. The funny thing, is we got all the changes in service and support we wanted and ended up at a price far lower than we anticipated. Our team looks like a real hero to our company!”
He went on, “There’s more Dave. One of the companies came in with a 70% discount on a certain part of our contract with them. That pissed me off! I thought, ‘We’ve been overpaying a huge amount in these past years.’ Also, I now know that at that 70% discount, they are making a huge profit, so it really makes me wonder about our total relationship. We signed a contract with very deep discounts, but this caused me to rethink our whole relationship with them. I’ve asked our teams to audit the relationship so that we really understand what we are getting, and what we are paying. We have new projects coming up, that vendor probably will win the business, but our eyes are wide open about their pricing and margins….”
The conversation went on. He sighed and chuckled, “I know you always tease me about my focus on price. It’s our job to get the best value we possibly can get from every other vendor. But I really wish the vendors wouldn’t make it about price, there’s so much more important to us and our purchasing decisions.”
I really wish I had the creativity to make this story up, unfortunately it’s true. I know my friend will read this, I promised him I wouldn’t name he or his company. I also promised that I wouldn’t identify the vendors–each of which is in the top 20, globally, in their industries.
I wish this were an unusual story. Some part of it (the 70% discount part) may be a little out of the norm, but I see it too often. Normally I see it from the sellers point of view, where sales people lead on price. The thing that was surprising, this was Regional VP’s of Sales leading with price! How do we ever expect to sell value?
Price will always be important. But it isn’t the only thing that is important to our customers, so why do we continue to make it the most important thing?
Hi Dave,
As always, spot on commentary and unfortunately, as you point out, a systemic problem way too common among sales organizations large and small.
Interesting that you say you here it a lot from sales people, but that you are surprised to hear it from sales leadership. I’m sure there are occasions where sales people acting on their own ignorance are responsible for lowering the company’s margins, but if their managers were paying attention, wouldn’t this be a non-issue? The alternative is that leadership doesn’t think strategically either; that this is their simply the top-down modus operandi. Any way you slice it, this faux pas falls on a deficit in leadership.
Loss of margin is bad enough, but worse yet, this practice puts those companies in the unfortunate position of a commodity sale where moving forward, they will always be known as “the low price option” rather than a strategic partner with value far beyond deep discounting. For thinking companies (the kind of customer we all should be going after) like the one in your post, cost is always a secondary consideration, following the primary directive: is this supplier the wisest, best-prepared partner to take us to the next level in this area?
Your post is encouraging to me, as it evidences the competition is still, more often than not, taking the low road. I can work with that.
Don, it’s great to see you commenting again. The unfortunate bottom line is that despite all the lip services people talk about, it appears the dominant strategy for selling is price. The three companies referenced in this article are “giants” in their industries and big names in business/technology circles. And each of them, at Regional VP levels had a primary strategy built around pricing and discounting. Even more ironic, the corporate messaging from these vendors focuses on “value.” The sales management, down through the sales people are not executing the corporate strategy.
The good news to this, is it keeps people like me fully employed 😉