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		<title>By: David Brock</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, thanks for the great comment.  I guess there is a bright side to having arguments with yourself---you probably always win!  As always, your comments are so refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, thanks for the great comment.  I guess there is a bright side to having arguments with yourself&#8212;you probably always win!  As always, your comments are so refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brock</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-9026</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great coment Bob, thanks for taking the time to contribute.  It really reinforces my thinking in a very simple and easy to understand way.  Thanks for helping out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great coment Bob, thanks for taking the time to contribute.  It really reinforces my thinking in a very simple and easy to understand way.  Thanks for helping out!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles H. Green</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-9024</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles H. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I personally found this post to be of tremendous value to me.  Such a simple distinction, yet so powerful.

What I&#039;m taking away from it is the difference between a coherently-defined, necessary workflow, and a customized, task-based, approach to getting there.  There may be better terms than that, but that&#039;s meaningful enough to me to help a lot.

In particular, that helps me clear up a lot of unnecessary arguments in my head (was there ever a necessary argument in my head?) about the relative value of different approaches--one of which now turns out to be a process, and one a methodology.  Wow, you just quieted a lot of noise for me.

Many thanks, to you and to Michael Webb in his original note (and comment which continued the thought).  You do great work, Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I personally found this post to be of tremendous value to me.  Such a simple distinction, yet so powerful.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m taking away from it is the difference between a coherently-defined, necessary workflow, and a customized, task-based, approach to getting there.  There may be better terms than that, but that&#8217;s meaningful enough to me to help a lot.</p>
<p>In particular, that helps me clear up a lot of unnecessary arguments in my head (was there ever a necessary argument in my head?) about the relative value of different approaches&#8211;one of which now turns out to be a process, and one a methodology.  Wow, you just quieted a lot of noise for me.</p>
<p>Many thanks, to you and to Michael Webb in his original note (and comment which continued the thought).  You do great work, Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Ennamorato</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-9023</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Ennamorato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
We definately need a &quot;process&quot;. While working our way through the process we can and should draw on any of the methodologies that might help us move the process along. I like to think of sales people having a tool kit of methodologies and techniques from which they select the right tool for the situation. I believe selling is sequential and cummulative and needs the structure of a process for maximize effectiveness. 

I believe a sales process should be a sales &quot;cycle&quot; rather than a ladder or stairs like series of steps. If you complete the steps in the ladder, and arrive at the top where you make a USP and close, then what do you do? But if you use a cycle, when you arrive at the end of the cycle, you simply recycle with another product or service using the brand equity you earned during the first cycle.

I agree 100% that a sales cycle is a &quot;road map&quot;, not a blue print. It is also a tremendous organizing tool for the sales person, sales management and the entire sales organization. With a well designed sales cycle, no one should ever wonder what to do next, sales management will always know where a sales person is with a prospect and marketing and other support groups can use it as a framework so that what they do is relevant to what the sales team needs.

Many years ago, a new V.P. of Sales at the company where I was a new sales person, said &quot;The first thing we need to do is learn to speak the same language&quot;. A good sales process does that and puts everyone on the same page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
We definately need a &#8220;process&#8221;. While working our way through the process we can and should draw on any of the methodologies that might help us move the process along. I like to think of sales people having a tool kit of methodologies and techniques from which they select the right tool for the situation. I believe selling is sequential and cummulative and needs the structure of a process for maximize effectiveness. </p>
<p>I believe a sales process should be a sales &#8220;cycle&#8221; rather than a ladder or stairs like series of steps. If you complete the steps in the ladder, and arrive at the top where you make a USP and close, then what do you do? But if you use a cycle, when you arrive at the end of the cycle, you simply recycle with another product or service using the brand equity you earned during the first cycle.</p>
<p>I agree 100% that a sales cycle is a &#8220;road map&#8221;, not a blue print. It is also a tremendous organizing tool for the sales person, sales management and the entire sales organization. With a well designed sales cycle, no one should ever wonder what to do next, sales management will always know where a sales person is with a prospect and marketing and other support groups can use it as a framework so that what they do is relevant to what the sales team needs.</p>
<p>Many years ago, a new V.P. of Sales at the company where I was a new sales person, said &#8220;The first thing we need to do is learn to speak the same language&#8221;. A good sales process does that and puts everyone on the same page.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brock</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, thanks for taking the time to comment.  The process is so important, yet we tend to distract ourselves with methodology and other things.  There are great tools and methodologies, but without &quot;clear and simple process,&quot; methodologies are meaningless.  Thanks for the comment!  Happy 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy, thanks for taking the time to comment.  The process is so important, yet we tend to distract ourselves with methodology and other things.  There are great tools and methodologies, but without &#8220;clear and simple process,&#8221; methodologies are meaningless.  Thanks for the comment!  Happy 2010!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy King</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

When I read your title, I wondered if different people have different tastes, because I knew straight away that all I cared about was a clear and simple process. After reading your article I  tend to agree with you. 

And I now realize why I&#039;m only interested in the process.  In international sales you run into a wide variety of methodologies.  Different cultures do things differently... different methodologies make up a large portion of these differences.

The international sales person has to have a good grasp of the sales process, otherwise he will not be able to reconcile the different methodologies and move ahead.  And I&#039;d even go so far as to say that the simpler your sales process and the stronger your grasp of what this sales process is, the easier your task will be in getting that international sale.  

If your sales methodologies are too sophisticated you run the risk of them not being easy to translate across cultures.

It&#039;s also interesting to work with cultures where there is a high level of sophistication either in their processes or their methodologies.  This is where it&#039;s critical for you to have a clear and simple process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>When I read your title, I wondered if different people have different tastes, because I knew straight away that all I cared about was a clear and simple process. After reading your article I  tend to agree with you. </p>
<p>And I now realize why I&#8217;m only interested in the process.  In international sales you run into a wide variety of methodologies.  Different cultures do things differently&#8230; different methodologies make up a large portion of these differences.</p>
<p>The international sales person has to have a good grasp of the sales process, otherwise he will not be able to reconcile the different methodologies and move ahead.  And I&#8217;d even go so far as to say that the simpler your sales process and the stronger your grasp of what this sales process is, the easier your task will be in getting that international sale.  </p>
<p>If your sales methodologies are too sophisticated you run the risk of them not being easy to translate across cultures.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to work with cultures where there is a high level of sophistication either in their processes or their methodologies.  This is where it&#8217;s critical for you to have a clear and simple process.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brock</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:  First, I apologize for the delay in posting and responding to your comment.  It got caught up in our Spam filters.  I think that sales people do stir up a lot of objections.  Objections often arise when the sales person has not understood the customer or when they have not made themselve understandable (confusing the customer).  This creates legitimate concern on the part of the customer and, hopefully, stimulates them to ask a question or raise an objection.  The worst objection ever is the unasked objection.  It&#039;s important for the sales person to create an environment that enables the customer to bring up their questions, concerns, objections.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.  Regards, Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:  First, I apologize for the delay in posting and responding to your comment.  It got caught up in our Spam filters.  I think that sales people do stir up a lot of objections.  Objections often arise when the sales person has not understood the customer or when they have not made themselve understandable (confusing the customer).  This creates legitimate concern on the part of the customer and, hopefully, stimulates them to ask a question or raise an objection.  The worst objection ever is the unasked objection.  It&#8217;s important for the sales person to create an environment that enables the customer to bring up their questions, concerns, objections.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to comment.  Regards, Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Colly Graham</title>
		<link>http://partnersinexcellenceblog.com/do-we-need-a-sales-process-or-a-sales-methodology/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Colly Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A process is a series of actions, changes, or functions bringing about a result and a methodology is a body of practices, procedures, and rules used by those who work in a discipline that is the difference. Problem is sales people confuse the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A process is a series of actions, changes, or functions bringing about a result and a methodology is a body of practices, procedures, and rules used by those who work in a discipline that is the difference. Problem is sales people confuse the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting steps for closing a sale.  

Do you ever find that sales people often create most of the objections themselves.  That is that customers ask questions that sales people stir up from nervous energy.  I&#039;ve found many sales people create confusion in the mind of the buyer and create questions that often lead to either no sale or a much more difficult closing process.

Thanks,

Dave
http://www.amrmedia.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting steps for closing a sale.  </p>
<p>Do you ever find that sales people often create most of the objections themselves.  That is that customers ask questions that sales people stir up from nervous energy.  I&#8217;ve found many sales people create confusion in the mind of the buyer and create questions that often lead to either no sale or a much more difficult closing process.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Dave<br />
<a href="http://www.amrmedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amrmedia.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, thanks for the comment.  Words are always so important and the source of so much miscommunication.  Technique is a good word, along with methodology.  Watch later this week, I will be writing about Sales Techniques.

Thanks for your comments and encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, thanks for the comment.  Words are always so important and the source of so much miscommunication.  Technique is a good word, along with methodology.  Watch later this week, I will be writing about Sales Techniques.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments and encouragement.</p>
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